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03.06:067 RAY FOREMAN - I'd Like to See You Write Better Poems You call yourself a poet because you've written a few poems that friends or family tell you are good, although they wouldn't know good from mediocre, and you've sent some to the small magazines in Poet's Market that have been accepted. If that was all that was required to be a good poet, then America is drowning in bad poetry and lousy poets. As a small magazine editor I continuously receive submissions. I shake my head at the problem: too many poets don't know what good poems are and how they're put together. Why, because they don't read poetry other than in the smalls, usually those they receive as contributor's copies. Too many of those poets are self absorbed and are not going to write decent work until they know what good work is. Believe me, few, if any, learn it in a poetry workshop. For sure, not in a sweetheart poet's group. If writing poetry is something you seriously want to learn to do well or better, I'm going to tell you a secret. The best place to learn writing good poetry is drowning yourself in the contemporary poetry anthologies written during the past twenty years. I repeat, anthologies, rather than collections by specific authors. Go ahead, ask why? Because literary organizations and individuals, for whatever reason, financial or love of the art form, have taken the trouble to gather together examples of good poetry by a wide variety of contemporary poets. Some anthologies have a focus, some not. I have never run into a bad anthology. Publishers want to sell their books for a long time; a bad one would be a dead one. I'm going to list a smattering of anthologies on the shelf behind me: The Generation of 2000, Unsettling America, Before Columbus Foundation Anthology, New Los Angeles Poets, The Maverick Poets, The Jazz Poetry Anthology, Aloud, 19 American Poets of the Golden Gate… and many more. Some are out of print, so check used bookstores. For those of you who write poems because you have no choice, allow me to share these thought with you. There's a time after a poem is written when a vibrancy, call it life, clings to it like a new baby crying to tell you it has been born. There's life there, others may feel it too when it is published. We've all experienced a poem left sitting long, years, and it loses its fizz and our life outlook has changed, the juice of that poem isn't flowing through our veins anymore. The air around it is still. As we reread the poem for the hundredth time we feel the old drawing and we rework it and maybe, for a moment or two we know that poem will always be a part of who we were, maybe still a part of who we will always be. Face it, other than poets, few people read poetry today. That's sad because many poets have something worthwhile, valuable, and rich to say. Hold yourself back from writing quantity, stay with quality. Writing anything but great meaningful poems is like planting dandelions in a mature lawn. PoetryRepairShop Classroom Issue Born in Chicago, I received the best education money can't buy living on Nelson Algren and Studs Terkel's Division Street during the '30s, '40s and '50s. Writing? Eating came first. You sneak writing in. Mostly psychology and political bla bla. Poetry came when I heard guys in saloons bleeding out life. I rode bike for 20 years and loved every minute. Did I expect to become Evil Kenevil? No. Same with writing poetry and short stories. I love writing and have no visions or desire to become a Bukowski. Then it becomes work which I hate. In 1990 I started publishing Coffeehouse Poets Quarterly. Too eclectic, dull. I have to love it. Closed in 1996 and started Clark Street Review focusing on interesting narrative poetry. There's real heart in this stuff. It's not like eating Chinese with MSG and everything tastes the same. This I love. Love what you do and you have it made. Hershey bars you buy at Albertson's. |
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03.06:067 CHARLES RIES - Ray Foreman Ray Foreman was the second editor to accept my poetry for publication. Joe Verrilli of Shoes beat him by a few months. Ray took my work when I didn't exactly know what I was trying to do or why. I had just woken up. I was writing. On February 5, 2001 I got an acceptance letter from Ray. I can remember the validating joy it gave me and that was the beginning of a relationship that has been of relatively short duration, but profound influence. Since that time I have written over 120 poems, published two chapbooks and had my poetry accepted by over 45 publications. I have just completed a first draft on a fictionalized memoir. I met Ray after I had set a goal for myself to work my way through Poet's Market. I wasn't getting the results I had expected. How hard can it be to write a good poem and get it published? I had marched my way through A and into B and was embarking head long into C when I came upon Clark Street Review. When my work met Ray, it didn't understand what line breaks were. I was linear in structure and often in content. There was much about the process and vitality of writing I didn't understand, but Ray didn't seem to care. He just kept saying, "this is good stuff, but try this and cut that and for Christ's sake stop using blue language." My writing was forced and overstuffed. I wanted to get attention by hitting shock rocks into people's minds. With Ray's constant tempering, my work slowly wandered into words that narratively floated, showed my heart, pain, joyful abandon and, occasionally, kissed God right on Her big red lips. I love God's big red lips. Don't you? And, I still use blue language. Like many or most writers, I remain haunted. I often think my writing is mediocre. I get rejections. I get pissed off by editors and the zoo of publishing. I'm full of my own shit, Ray tells me. I am no longer a babe in the woods, but a journeyman-poet planting trees with the hope I can create a forest as grand as Ray has over his long writing career. But mentoring never ends. It transmutes into friendship, mutual respect and shared experience. Even now Ray is there saying it like it is: telling me not to stop and taking the time to say, "It's good work Charley, now turn it into a great poem" or "What do you think of this? Wouldn't it work better if you did this and dropped that? There, take a look." And, of course, I see what he means, but I couldn't see it sitting there when it was spitting me in the eye from the page. Appreciation is a blessing to a young artist. Having a mentor who says, "It's good, now make it better" is the life blood of creative growth. No one writes alone. Especially in the beginning. Mentors are a bit like mothers.They carry you for awhile, set you in a direction, tell you you're great looking (even on bad days), or full of yourself on good ones, and then they let the world have at you. God love Ray Foreman, that crusty, good hearted guy in Berthoud, Colorado whom I have never met in person or talked to on the phone, but who has read every poem I have written and knows my heart better than most people I see every day, because I wear it on my words. PoetryRepairShop Classroom Issue Charles P. Ries lives and writes in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. He has completed work on a fictionalized memoir titled Riesville . His second book of poetry titled Monje Malo Speaks English was published in January 2003 by Four-sep Publications. His poetry and short stories have appeared in numerous publications such as: CLARK STREET REVIEW, ANTHOLOGY, CLEVIS HOOK PRESS/HAZMAT REVIEW, BARBARIC YAWP, FREE VERSE, SNR REVIEW, ICONOCLAST, STAPLEGUN PRESS, IODINE, ART:MAG, LUMMOX JOURNAL, POETRY MOTEL, BATHTUB GIN, LATINO STUFF REVIEW, FIRST CLASS, NERVE COWBOY, WORDRIOT, POESY, WISCONSIN RIVER VALLEY JOURNAL, ZEN BABY, M(ONKEY) K(ETTLE), THE ROCKFORD REVIEW, THE CALIFORNIA QUARTERLY, WELLSPRING, CIRCLE MAGAZINE, PEARL, RATTLE, DAYSPRING and 2RIVER VIEW. Los Huesos has or will appear in Clark Street Review, Free Verse, Word Riot, Poetry Motel, and Anthology. |
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